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Does anyone else's pet react to the song? NEW!CelticDreamer_Aoife3Wed Jun 24, 2026
8:55 pm
I met BogLord at a session and cried NEW!festival_fiddle_fiona3Mon Jun 22, 2026
10:45 pm
Session etiquette for newbies (2026 edition) NEW!session_newbie_cork3Sat Jun 20, 2026
9:00 pm
Rattlin' Bog in other languages? NEW!CelticDreamer_Aoife3Thu Jun 18, 2026
9:40 pm
The merch is HERE NEW!zoe_tiktok_bog2Tue Jun 16, 2026
6:10 pm
Electric Picnic meetup thread NEW!BogLord20022Sun Jun 14, 2026
4:30 pm
Regional variations: your version vs mine NEW!TradSessionKing3Fri Jun 12, 2026
8:15 pm
FLEA VERSE SUPREMACY SUMMER TOUR 2026 NEW!flea_verse_supremacy3Wed Jun 10, 2026
7:30 pm
The warm ground - anyone else felt it? NEW!BogArchaeologist2Mon Jun 08, 2026
10:22 pm
I taught my whole office the Rattlin' Bog NEW!bog_down_in_the_valley3Sat Jun 06, 2026
5:45 pm
Best version of the song for beginners? NEW!session_newbie_cork3Thu Jun 04, 2026
8:33 pm
Summer festival meetups?? NEW!zoe_tiktok_bog4Tue Jun 02, 2026
9:15 pm
What a journey NEW!BogLord20022Sun May 16, 2026
9:45 pm
Rattlin' Bog is now on the Junior Cert curriculum NEW!bog_down_in_the_valley1Thu May 14, 2026
2:20 pm
I went to the bog NEW!BogArchaeologist1Mon May 10, 2026
11:33 pm
The paper got published!! NEW!dr_niamh_tm1Fri May 08, 2026
7:22 pm
Festival season plans? NEW!session_newbie_cork2Thu May 01, 2026
3:15 pm
Domain registration anomaly NEW!BogArchaeologist0Tue Apr 22, 2026
5:47 pm
Who was QuietListener? NEW!flea_verse_supremacy2Mon Apr 20, 2026
10:33 pm
The verse twelve recording is real NEW!flea_verse_supremacy2Tue Apr 15, 2026
9:55 pm
Merch store is LIVE!!! NEW!BogLord20022Mon Apr 05, 2026
6:30 pm
Something weird about the @bog_remembers coordinates NEW!BogArchaeologist1Fri Mar 28, 2026
11:22 pm
The mathematics paper - has anyone read it? NEW!dr_niamh_tm1Wed Mar 26, 2026
8:45 pm
BOGLORD ON THE LATE LATE SHOW!!! NEW!flea_verse_supremacy3Sat Mar 21, 2026
10:55 pm
☘ ST PATRICK'S DAY 2026 MEGATHREAD ☘ NEW!BogLord20025Mon Mar 17, 2026
11:45 pm
I'm crying at the old forum posts NEW!zoe_tiktok_bog0Fri Feb 27, 2026
1:22 am
The car boot recording - anyone know more? NEW!BogArchaeologist1Wed Feb 25, 2026
9:33 pm
This site deserves a Wikipedia article NEW!flea_verse_supremacy2Sun Feb 22, 2026
4:20 pm
Has anyone heard of 'verse twelve'? NEW!BogArchaeologist2Sat Feb 20, 2026
11:52 pm
UCC Flashmob was INCREDIBLE NEW!session_newbie_cork2Sun Feb 15, 2026
7:44 pm
History of the song - how old IS it really? NEW!BogArchaeologist2Thu Jan 23, 2026
10:11 pm
The @bog_remembers account NEW!zoe_tiktok_bog1Wed Jan 15, 2026
11:34 pm
New to trad sessions - any tips? NEW!session_newbie_cork2Sun Jan 12, 2026
8:55 pm
Anyone else doing the TikTok challenge? NEW!flea_verse_supremacy3Wed Jan 07, 2026
9:22 pm
The hit counter number seems wrong NEW!RattlinFan991Sat Dec 20, 2025
6:41 pm
HELLO I FOUND THIS SITE ON TIKTOK NEW!zoe_tiktok_bog1Tue Dec 16, 2025
2:33 pm
Is anyone still here?? (Dec 2025) NEW!BogLord20022Mon Dec 01, 2025
11:47 pm
SOMEONE POSTED A VIDEO ONLINE!!!!! (link inside) NEW!BogLord20023Thu Mar 13, 2003
7:42 pm
☘ Happy St Patrick's Day 2003!! ☘ShannonMelody0Mon Mar 10, 2003
8:30 am
I taught my whole school this song and now everyone hates me lolCelticDreamer_Aoife3Sun Feb 23, 2003
4:17 pm
Which verse is your favourite??BogLord20024Sat Mar 08, 2003
11:23 pm
Does anyone know the FULL lyrics?? I always forget the orderRattlinFan992Fri Jan 10, 2003
9:05 pm
Does anyone else's pet react to the song?[Close Thread]

ok this is going to sound mad but my dog HOWLS along to the rattlin bog??? like specifically when it speeds up toward the flea verse he starts howling in what i can only describe as harmonising?? he doesn't do this for any other song. just the bog.

does anyone else's pet react to it?? tell me i'm not losing my mind

*~*~* Aoife *~*~*

my housemate's parrot has started saying "rare bog" at random intervals. we don't know when it learned this. we have played the song in the house exactly twice. the parrot now says "rare bog" approximately 40 times a day. we are going insane

- bog_down_in_the_valley -

Rattlin' the cat has always responded to the song. She sits very still and stares at the speakers when it's playing. Not at me. At the speakers. Like she's listening VERY carefully. She's been doing this for years. Grand old girl.

Animals know a good tune when they hear one. Simple as that.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

a parrot saying "rare bog" is the greatest thing any animal has ever accomplished. RARE BOG. i want this parrot to be the official mascot of the forum

FLEA GANG
I met BogLord at a session and cried[Close Thread]

Ok I need to share this. Last night I was at a session in Miltown Malbay and I noticed a lad across the room who kept leading the singing in the most warm, infectious way. And I thought "he reminds me of BogLord from the website." And then someone called him Seamus and I KNEW.

I've been reading this site for months. It found me at a time when I was questioning whether trad music still had a future, whether the sessions I've given my life to still mattered. And this site reminded me why I play.

I went up to him afterwards and told him all of this and I cried. In a pub. In front of strangers. He was so kind about it. He bought me a pint and we talked for two hours about the song and the community and everything.

This is a good place you've all built here.

- Fiona, somewhere on the road -

Fiona, meeting you last night was one of the highlights of this whole mad year. Your fiddle playing is STUNNING — lads, she played a set of reels that had the whole pub silent, which is the highest compliment you can get in Miltown.

When someone tells you that something you made helped them remember why they love something... there's no greater gift. Thank you for coming up and saying hello. You're part of the community now.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

Welcome Fiona! If you've been playing sessions for twenty years, you and I have probably crossed paths at some point. The trad world is small. Glad this site brought you here. The more musicians we have in this community, the better.

-- TradSessionKing --

This is what it's all about. People finding each other through the song. Through the love of something real. Welcome, Fiona. You belong here.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
Session etiquette for newbies (2026 edition)[Close Thread]

With festival season here, I know loads of people are going to sessions for the first time (like I was six months ago!). Can we get a proper etiquette guide going? What do you wish someone had told you before your first session?

- session_newbie_cork -

Great thread. Here's the essentials:

1. LISTEN first. Sit near the session, have a pint, absorb the tunes. Don't jump in straight away.
2. Don't start a tune unless you're invited to or you know the session well.
3. If you don't know a tune, sit it out. Nobody minds. Everyone sits tunes out.
4. Keep your instrument volume in check. If you're drowning people out, pull back.
5. Singing songs: wait for a gap. Ask if it's a singing session. Some sessions are instruments only.
6. Buy a round if you're sitting with the musicians.
7. Don't record without asking.
8. The Rattlin' Bog is almost always welcome, but timing is everything. Wait until the energy is right.

-- TradSessionKing --

Everything TradSessionKing said, plus: don't be afraid. Everyone at a session was new once. The nervousness you feel walking in? Every single person felt that same thing. And the fact that you're nervous means you CARE, and caring is the most important thing you can bring to a session.

Also: smile. Musicians feed off energy. If you're enjoying it, show it. That matters more than how well you play.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

Hello everyone! First post here. I'm Fiona, I play fiddle and I've been doing sessions and festivals for about twenty years now. Just want to add a musician's perspective to this lovely thread.

As someone who sits in the circle: we WANT new people there. We notice when someone's listening carefully and enjoying themselves. We notice when someone sits out a tune they don't know instead of bluffing through it. And we remember the people who come back week after week and slowly become part of the furniture.

The sessions need new blood. So come. Be nervous. It's fine. We'll look after you.

- Fiona, somewhere on the road -
Rattlin' Bog in other languages?[Close Thread]

ok so i saw a video of people singing what sounded like the rattlin bog but in JAPANESE?? and it got me thinking... are there versions of the song in other languages?? like actual translations that people sing?? not just irish and english but like all over the world??

because if the song exists in languages i don't speak that would make me so happy i might actually cry

*~*~* Aoife *~*~*

Cumulative songs exist in virtually every language family. Whether they descend from a common source or emerge independently is one of the great questions in ethnomusicology. The Japanese version you heard may be a direct translation or it may be a parallel evolution of the same structural idea.

I'm aware of Portuguese, Norwegian, and German versions that map closely to the Rattlin' Bog's structure. The recursive pattern transcends language.

- Dr. Niamh T.M. (TCD) -

Songs travel with people. Every Irish person who emigrated brought the Rattlin' Bog with them, and it changed in each new home. There are versions in Australia, Canada, the US. The words change but the structure remains. That's the song's genius — it's a container, and people fill it with their own world.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫

I had NO IDEA there was a Japanese version. I had no idea there was a Norwegian version. The emails I've been getting from around the world keep surprising me — people in Brazil, in Korea, in South Africa, all telling me they grew up with some version of this song.

The Rattlin' Bog is bigger than Ireland. It's bigger than any of us. It's everywhere.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
The merch is HERE[Close Thread]

IT ARRIVED. the t-shirt arrived. im wearing it right now and i am NEVER taking it off. the little shamrock on the back??? the "est. 2002" text??? the flea wearing a tiny crown??? im deceased. this is the best piece of clothing i have ever owned

also the stickers are SO good. my laptop is now 40% rattlin bog stickers and thats not enough

- zoe -

i ordered the mug and i am now exclusively drinking tea out of a mug that says "the bog down in the valley-o" on it. my housemate thinks i've lost the plot. she's right. i have. the bog took it from me and i wouldn't have it any other way

- bog_down_in_the_valley -

I am absolutely CHUFFED that the merch is landing well. The flea crown was Mick's idea, believe it or not. He drew it on a napkin in Cruise's and I thought "that's going on a t-shirt."

More designs coming. Might do a hoodie for festival season. The bog keeps giving.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
Electric Picnic meetup thread[Close Thread]

Right lads, I know Electric Picnic is in September but we need to start planning NOW. I've heard from the organisers and they want me to do a short set/talk in one of the smaller tents. This is HAPPENING.

If you're coming, let me know here and we'll sort a meetup. I'm thinking we pick a time and a landmark and anyone who wants to come says hello. I'll have stickers.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

IM COMING IM COMING IM COMING. already got my ticket. i will find you boglord if i have to search every tent in stradbally. also can we do a massive group sing?? like get as many bog fans as possible in one place and just go for it??

- zoe -

I'm going!! First Electric Picnic ever. I'll be the one looking completely lost and overwhelmed but very excited. Stickers would be class, BogLord. Something to identify fellow bog fans in the wild.

- session_newbie_cork -
Regional variations: your version vs mine[Close Thread]

Something I've been thinking about lately: the song changes from county to county. The Galway version I grew up with has "limb" before "branch." My mate in Kerry swears the nest comes before the twig. A lad in Donegal told me they have a verse about a root that doesn't appear anywhere else.

What version did you learn? Where did you learn it? I want to map the regional differences.

-- TradSessionKing --

The Shannon version goes: tree, limb, branch, bough, twig, nest, egg, bird, feather, flea. We have the "bough" between branch and twig. I learned it from my grandmother and she from hers. Never questioned the bough until I heard versions without it.

Every family carries their own version. That's what makes it a living song.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫

mine goes straight from tree to branch to twig!! no limb at all!! and my nan always said "a rare wee twig" instead of just "a rare twig" and i thought that was the official version until i came to this site and realized there IS no official version and that broke my brain a little but also made me love it more???

*~*~* Aoife *~*~*

This is BRILLIANT, TradSessionKing. The Clare version I grew up with has the standard order from the lyrics page, but even within Clare I've heard variations. Mick Hennessy insists there should be a "bark" before the branch and gets genuinely upset about it.

Every version is correct. The song adapts to whoever's singing it. That's not a flaw — that's the whole point. The Rattlin' Bog is different everywhere because it BELONGS everywhere.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
FLEA VERSE SUPREMACY SUMMER TOUR 2026[Close Thread]

RIGHT. the plan is simple. i am going to attend EVERY session i can find this summer and at each one i am going to start the rattlin bog and make sure we get ALL THE WAY to the flea verse. no shortcuts. no stopping at the bird. THE FLEA OR NOTHING.

i have mapped out 47 sessions across 12 counties. i have a car. i have snacks. i have a sleeping bag. THE FLEA VERSE SUPREMACY SUMMER TOUR BEGINS NOW

FLEA GANG

this is either the most brilliant thing anyone has ever done or a genuinely prosecutable crime against session etiquette. possibly both. i respect it immensely either way

- bog_down_in_the_valley -

Flea. I say this with genuine affection. Session etiquette matters. You can't just waltz into a session and launch into the Rattlin' Bog uninvited. There's an order to things. You wait for the right moment. You read the room. You earn the Bog.

That said... if the moment arises naturally, by all means. Let the flea be heard.

-- TradSessionKing --

session etiquette is RESPECTED but also the flea verse doesn't wait for invitations. the flea verse IS the invitation. the flea verse is a force of nature and i am merely its vessel

session 1 of 47: COMPLETE. started the bog at a session in Kilkenny last night. got to the flea. three people hugged me afterwards. one person told me to leave. net positive

FLEA GANG
The warm ground - anyone else felt it?[Close Thread]

Follow up to my May visit to the coordinates. I went back last weekend and the ground is STILL warm. Warmer than last time, actually. It's June now so you could argue it's just the season, but this isn't normal warmth. It's concentrated in the clearing area. Step five metres in any direction and the temperature drops noticeably.

Has anyone else visited? I'd really like independent confirmation here. The coordinates are in my earlier thread.

- BogArchaeologist -

I haven't been yet but this is really interesting. Warm ground in a specific spot? Is there any geological explanation? Like a hot spring underneath or something? I'm genuinely curious now. Might try to make the trip up to Clare this summer.

- session_newbie_cork -

I've been to that spot many times now, as you know from the blog. Yes, the ground is warm. Yes, it's unusual. But there's probably a perfectly rational explanation — underground water, decomposing peat, some kind of geothermal activity. Clare has all sorts of geological quirks.

Don't read too much into it. It's just a warm patch of bog.

(I'm saying that as much to myself as to you.)

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
I taught my whole office the Rattlin' Bog[Close Thread]

so i work in an open plan office in dublin right. and last friday someone asked what i was humming and i said "the rattlin bog" and they said "what's that" and i said "gather round"

by 11am my whole row knew the first three verses. by lunch the ENTIRE FLOOR was singing. someone brought it to the second floor. the canteen was chaos. pure beautiful chaos.

my boss came over at 3pm and said "can we please stop singing about the bog" and i said "no" and honestly i think HR is going to email me on monday but it was worth it

- bog_down_in_the_valley -

THIS IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL THING I HAVE EVER READ. did they learn the flea verse?? please tell me they learned the flea verse. if an entire office floor was doing the flea verse at full speed i would actually cry tears of joy

FLEA GANG

they ABSOLUTELY learned the flea verse. the lad from accounts nearly had a heart attack trying to get through it without breathing. HR Sandra was filming it on her phone while simultaneously composing the email about workplace disruption. legends every one of them

- bog_down_in_the_valley -

This is EXACTLY what the song is for. It doesn't care about your quarterly reports or your KPIs or whatever the corporate world is on about these days. It gets in. It spreads. It turns a room of strangers into a choir.

If HR emails you, forward it to me. I'll write them a letter explaining the cultural significance of what happened in that office.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
Best version of the song for beginners?[Close Thread]

My friend wants to learn the song but she's never heard it before. What version should I send her? There are like a million on YouTube and I don't want to overwhelm her with a 15-minute marathon version right off the bat.

- session_newbie_cork -

The Clancy Brothers version is the classic entry point. Clear, well-paced, you can hear every word and follow the structure. Once she gets the bones of it, let her explore the wilder versions. But start with the Clancys. They're the gateway.

-- TradSessionKing --

Honestly? The best version is whichever one has a room full of people singing along. That's where the song LIVES. A studio recording is grand for learning the words, but the song doesn't really become itself until there are twenty people shouting the flea verse at top speed and laughing.

But yes, the Clancys for learning. Then find a session and experience the real thing.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

ok so there's this tiktok where a girl teaches the whole song in under 3 minutes with hand gestures for each verse and it's genuinely the best learning tool i've ever seen. lemme find it... here. my friend learned it from this in like one afternoon

- zoe -
Summer festival meetups??[Close Thread]

ok so summer is HERE and festival season is upon us and i need to know who is going where so we can actually meet in person??? like we've been talking on this forum for months and i have never seen any of your faces and that feels wrong

drop your festival plans below pls

- zoe -

I'll be at Cork Folk Festival for sure! It's basically on my doorstep. Would be class to meet some of you there. I've been practising the bog on my whistle and I think I can almost keep up now without falling apart at the flea verse.

- session_newbie_cork -

Fleadh Cheoil, as always. I haven't missed one in fifteen years and I'm not about to start now. This year's going to be special. I can feel it in my bones.

Also planning to hit the Galway Arts Festival and maybe Doolin Folk Fest if the dates work out.

-- TradSessionKing --

i will be at EVERY FESTIVAL where the flea verse might be sung. which is ALL OF THEM. i have a spreadsheet. i have a sleeping bag. i have a mission. THE FLEA VERSE WILL BE HEARD ACROSS THIS ISLAND

FLEA GANG

Right lads, here's the BogLord Summer Tour 2026:

1. Cork Folk Festival (mid June)
2. Doolin Folk Fest
3. Galway Arts Festival (doing a TALK, more on that later)
4. Fleadh Cheoil na hEireann (obviously)
5. Electric Picnic (September but I'm counting it)

Five festivals. Five chances to meet the community in person. I am BUZZING. This summer is going to be something special.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
What a journey[Close Thread]

In the past six months, something amazing happened. This site, which I thought was dead, came alive again. You all found it. You all came back to it or discovered it for the first time. You brought energy and joy and mystery and wonder.

When I started this place in 2002, I never imagined it would still matter twenty-four years later. I never imagined it would be on TV or in academic papers or in school curriculums. I just wanted a place for bog fans to exist.

But somehow, it became more than that. It became proof that good things endure. That passion matters. That a silly folk song about creatures getting smaller and smaller can somehow contain infinite meaning.

Thank you all for being here. For keeping the bog alive. For understanding.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

You built something good, BogLord. Something real. And you kept building it even when no one was watching. That's the mark of real love. Keep doing what you're doing.

-- TradSessionKing -- Forever in the bog --

i came here because of a tiktok and i stayed because of this community. you all showed me what it means to love something without irony. to build something and keep building it. to hold space for other people's joy. thank you for that. thank you for the bog

- zoe -
Rattlin' Bog is now on the Junior Cert curriculum[Close Thread]

so i just found out that the rattlin bog is being included in the junior cert irish curriculum as a folk song example?? like thousands of irish teenagers are about to learn this song in school??? thats insane??? we did it??? we actually did it??? the bog is OFFICIAL now

- bog_down_in_the_valley -

The song survives. It adapts. It teaches. It brings people together generation after generation. This is what I always believed would happen. The bog is eternal.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
I went to the bog[Close Thread]

I went to the coordinates. The ones from the satellite imagery. The clearing in Ennis.

When I got there, I understood what BogLord meant in his blog post about the ground being warm. It is. It's warm even now in May. And it's silent in a way that nowhere else is silent.

I found a stone, partially submerged in the earth. Old. Very old. And on its surface... marks. Not random. They're arranged in patterns. Musical notation. Old notation. Pre-staff notation maybe. I took photographs.

I don't know what this means. But I know it means something.

- BogArchaeologist -

You found it.

The paper got published!![Close Thread]

The paper was officially published in the Journal of Mathematical Folk Studies! Full citation is on my profile. We've already had some academic interest, and a few other mathematicians are reaching out about collaborative work on similar recursive structures in other folk traditions.

It started with the Rattlin' Bog. It's wild where that's led.

- Dr. Niamh T.M. (TCD) -

Dr. Niamh, that's incredible. Truly. The Rattlin' Bog is being taken seriously as an academic subject. A song that people learned in sessions and pubs is now being analyzed in peer-reviewed journals. The bog has always deserved this kind of respect.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
Festival season plans?[Close Thread]

It's May! Festival season is coming up. Is anyone planning to go to any summer festivals? I'm thinking of hitting up a few sessions. Meeting some bog fans in person would be class.

- session_newbie_cork -

I'll be at Fleadh Cheoil na hEireann in August like always. If you make it to that, find me. We can have a proper session together.

-- TradSessionKing --

im definitely going to some festivals. would be so cool to meet you all in person. the bog community is real and its beautiful and i dont want to take it for granted

- zoe -
Domain registration anomaly[Close Thread]

BogLord mentioned finding domain registration records in his blog post. I looked into it further.

The domain was first registered in 1997. But before that, in 1997, there was a failed registration attempt. I traced the IP address. It came from Ennis, Co. Clare. The exact same location as those coordinates BogArchaeologist mentioned earlier. The clearing on the satellite images.

Someone tried to register this domain two decades early. From a place that doesn't seem to exist on modern maps. I don't know what this means. But it means something.

- BogArchaeologist -

No replies yet. Be the first to respond!

Who was QuietListener?[Close Thread]

i just realized quietlistener hasnt posted in like two months and their posts have been... weird. let me compile them:

- "It's correct." (about the hit counter)

- "Some things remember on their own." (about bog_remembers account)

- "Older than you think." (about song origins)

- "Songs that contain themselves are older than language..."

- "The numbers were always there."

- "You're seeing right. Not all places want to be found on maps."

who IS this person and what are they trying to tell us???

- flea -

Leave it alone. They were probably just having a laugh. Some people like to be cryptic on the internet. It's harmless.

(But my tone is uncertain. I know I should mean what I'm saying. I'm not sure I do.)

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

Some people speak in riddles because the truth is too big for plain words. Whether that's what QuietListener was doing, I don't know. But I know they were never unkind.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
The verse twelve recording is real[Close Thread]

okay so apparently a woman's grandmother recorded herself singing the Rattlin' Bog in like the 1950s or 60s and it's CIRCULATING NOW and in the recording... she keeps singing past the hair. there are MORE verses. and they loop. the song loops back on itself and keeps going and i listened to it for like 20 minutes and i still cant find where it ends??

- flea -

I've been listening to this recording and I'm documenting every verse. The structure is INSANE. After the hair, it goes into something that almost sounds like the beginning again, but not quite. It's like the song is describing itself. Or... remembering itself?

- BogArchaeologist -

From a mathematical standpoint, this is significant. If the song contains infinite recursive variations, it matches the pattern I identified in my paper. This isn't random. The Rattlin' Bog might be a perfect mathematical structure dressed in folk song clothing.

- Dr. Niamh T.M. (TCD) -
Merch store is LIVE!!![Close Thread]

After twenty-three years of running this site with no way to sustain it financially, we finally have a merch store! T-shirts, hoodies, mugs, all with original bog-themed designs. All proceeds go directly back into keeping this site and community alive.

Link is on the home page. Check it out. Help keep the bog alive.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

just ordered three hoodies. one for me, one for my friend who got me into the bog, one to keep pristine and never wear because it's art

- zoe -

Finally. Finally you can take care of yourself and this site properly. This is what should have happened years ago. Ordering now.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
Something weird about the @bog_remembers coordinates[Close Thread]

I've been analyzing the @bog_remembers TikTok account and noticed that some of the location pins in the videos correspond to specific coordinates. I've tried to trace them. Most resolve to places in Ireland, which makes sense.

But one video from St Patrick's Day... the coordinates point to a location that doesn't exist on any modern map. It should be in a valley near Ennis, Co. Clare. But when I checked satellite imagery, there's just... a clearing. An odd clearing. Almost geometric. And I can't find ANY historical record of what might be there.

Am I losing my mind? Can anyone else see what I'm seeing?

- BogArchaeologist -

You're seeing right. Not all places want to be found on maps.

The mathematics paper - has anyone read it?[Close Thread]

I've published a paper exploring the mathematical properties of the Rattlin' Bog's cumulative structure. In simple terms: the song follows a recursive pattern that mirrors certain mathematical sequences. The way each verse adds and repeats creates a kind of linguistic fractal.

The implications are interesting. It suggests the song was either designed with deep mathematical understanding, or it evolved to be this way. Either way, it's remarkable.

The paper is open access if anyone wants to read it. I'm happy to explain any of the concepts in non-technical terms.

- Dr. Niamh T.M. (TCD) -

The numbers were always there.

BOGLORD ON THE LATE LATE SHOW!!![Close Thread]

I AM SCREAMING. BOGLORD YOU WERE ON THE LATE LATE SHOW TONIGHT??? THEY SHOWED YOUR WEBSITE AND YOU SANG AND EVERYTHING??? I RECORDED IT. I'M POSTING IT. YOU ARE A LEGEND. A FOLK HERO. THE WEBMASTER OF LEGEND

- flea -

BOGLORD!!! that was YOU??? my family was watching and when you started talking about the site my mam was like "oh this is that bog song thing" and then you SANG and i literally ascended. you're internet famous now. the shrine is internet famous. im friends with an internet celebrity

- zoe -

I watched it live and I'm not gonna lie, I shed tears. Seeing you up there talking about the bog, about the community, about 23 years of keeping this alive... that was something special, lad. You earned this moment.

-- TradSessionKing --

I don't even know what to say. I still can't believe it happened. They called me and asked if I wanted to come on, and I thought it was a prank. But I did it. And it was the most surreal and beautiful experience of my life.

To everyone here: this was always for you. Thank you for being here with me.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
☘ ST PATRICK'S DAY 2026 MEGATHREAD ☘[Close Thread]

☘☘☘ HAPPY ST PATRICK'S DAY ☘☘☘

Today we sing. Today we celebrate. Today the bog remembers us and we remember the bog.

POST YOUR CELEBRATIONS HERE. Where are you today? What's the energy? Are you singing? Who's with you? Tell us EVERYTHING.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

im at a pub in dublin with like 30 people ive never met before and we just spontaneously started singing the rattlin bog and the ENTIRE PUB JOINED IN?? its still happening?? im typing from the bathroom because i needed to breathe but theyre still singing out there. this is peak irish energy and peak bog energy combined

- zoe -

In Galway with the usual crew. Three hours straight of trad. The Bog came up and when we hit the hair on the flea, the ROOF nearly came off. These Galway lads are legends. Paddy's Day never gets old when you have the Bog.

-- TradSessionKing -- Galway sessions forever --

Cork sessions were PACKED. I actually led one of the Bog verses today and nobody told me I got it wrong?? I think I've leveled up??? Also everyone was so happy and nice and I felt like I belonged. This is what home feels like.

- session_newbie_cork -

I sang in my kitchen alone with a cup of tea but I felt connected to every single one of you. The Bog reaches across distance and time and brings us together. That's the real magic of this day.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫

recorded myself singing the entire bog in one take for st paddys and actually nailed it. feeling unstoppable. feeling bog energy. feeling alive. love this festival. love this community. love the bog

- flea -
I'm crying at the old forum posts[Close Thread]

i just spent like four hours reading through the 2003 forum posts and im actually crying??? these people were so pure and earnest and enthusiastic about this song and about finding each other over a shared love of the bog??? and they were so KIND to each other???

thats the vibe i want to bring. thank u 2003 bog fans for showing me how to love something without irony

- zoe -

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The car boot recording - anyone know more?[Close Thread]

BogLord mentioned in a recent blog post finding a reference to a 1847 gramophone recording of someone singing the Rattlin' Bog that was discovered in a car boot sale. An 1847 GRAMOPHONE RECORDING. That shouldn't be possible. Gramophones weren't widely available until the 1890s.

Has anyone else seen this recording? Is it real? How is this possible?

- BogArchaeologist -

From a historical and technological standpoint, this is anachronistic. Impossible, really. Unless the date is wrong, or the artifact is something else entirely. The mathematics of object dating can be tricky. Sometimes what we think we know about timelines... isn't.

- Dr. Niamh T.M. (TCD) -
This site deserves a Wikipedia article[Close Thread]

real talk tho: boglord has maintained this shrine for like 23 years. it has forums that go back to 2003. it has comprehensive lyrics documentation. it's a piece of internet history and also a genuine artifact of fan culture. it absolutely warrants a wikipedia article about the site itself. we should make one

- flea -

I appreciate the thought, flea, but Wikipedia has pretty strict notability requirements. I'm not sure a fan site, however beloved, qualifies. Unless the site itself becomes notable enough to be written about in reliable sources...

But honestly? The fact that you all want to do this means more to me than any Wikipedia article ever could.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

The greatest monuments don't always get recorded officially. Sometimes they live in the hearts of the people who loved them. This site is a monument, whether Wikipedia knows it or not.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
Has anyone heard of 'verse twelve'?[Close Thread]

I keep finding references in old session notes to a 'verse twelve' of the Rattlin' Bog. Not verse ten (the hair). A TWELFTH verse. But no one I ask seems to know it, and I can't find it documented anywhere.

Does anyone here know what comes after the hair? Is there more to the song that's been lost? Or is this a myth?

- BogArchaeologist -

I've heard people mention it. There's a version that goes on but it's rare. Some people say it loops back on itself? Like the song contains itself? But I've never actually heard anyone sing it.

-- RattlinFan99 --

Songs that contain themselves are older than language. They don't disappear. They wait. They have infinite verses if you know how to find them. Some people do. Most don't. The ones who do usually don't talk about it.

UCC Flashmob was INCREDIBLE[Close Thread]

I was at UCC campus yesterday and there was this spontaneous group of people who started singing the Rattlin' Bog in the courtyard and within MINUTES there were like a hundred people gathered and everyone started joining in??? It was magic. Absolute magic. Just strangers becoming one voice for a song that doesn't even make sense and yet it makes perfect sense??

Has anyone else witnessed something like this? Does the song just DO that to people?

- session_newbie_cork -

YES!!! i think someone posted a video of that??? lemme see if i can find it on tiktok but i remember seeing something like that going around. the comments were all people being like "i would literally stop everything to join that" and same like same energy

- zoe -

The song DOES that. It's always done that. It's a spell. A good one. One that brings people together instead of dividing them. Hold onto that feeling. That's the real power of the bog.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
History of the song - how old IS it really?[Close Thread]

I've been researching the origins of the Rattlin' Bog and I can't find a definitive date for when it was first documented. The earliest written versions I can find are from the 1950s, but the oral tradition clearly goes back much further.

Has anyone here found earlier references? There are hints that versions of this cumulative song existed in pre-17th century Ireland, but I can't pin down sources.

- BogArchaeologist - historian / researcher

This is interesting from a mathematical perspective. Cumulative structure appears in much older folk traditions across Celtic cultures. The Rattlin' Bog could be a surviving variant of something centuries old. The recursive nature alone suggests deep roots.

- Dr. Niamh T.M. (TCD) -

Older than you think.

The @bog_remembers account[Close Thread]

ok so is anyone else on tiktok seeing these weird videos from the @bog_remembers account??? they're just like... clips of bogs. different bogs. from different time periods. sometimes black and white. sometimes modern. but they're all tagged with song lyrics? like real lyrics from the rattlin bog but also like... i dont recognize some of them?

is this some kind of artistic project or am i being weird about it

- zoe -

Some things remember on their own.

New to trad sessions - any tips?[Close Thread]

Hi everyone, I just started going to sessions here in Cork and I'm absolutely terrified lol. Everyone knows the tunes and they're all so fast and I just have my whistle and I'm barely keeping up. Does it get easier? Any tips for a complete beginner?

- session_newbie_cork -

It absolutely gets easier. Every single person in that session was once where you are now. The experienced players remember what it's like to not know the tunes.

Tips: listen more than you play at first. Learn the Rattlin' Bog if you don't know it already—it's the gateway drug to trad music. Don't be afraid to sit out a tune if you don't know it. And most importantly, the people at sessions want you there. They want new players.

You're going to be grand. Keep going.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

Cork sessions are the best. Which pub are you going to? There's a good crowd on Thursdays at Flannery's. I'll be back in Cork next month—come find me if you're there. I promise the terror goes away.

-- TradSessionKing --
Anyone else doing the TikTok challenge?[Close Thread]

so theres like a whole thing where ppl are trying to sing the rattlin bog in one breath and film it and the CHAOS is unreal. has anyone here attempted it. i got to the feather before my lungs betrayed me

- flea -

omg i did this!! i actually made it all the way to the hair but i sounded like a dying cat lmaooo. posted it as a private video because i was NOT putting that on the internet haha

flea_verse_supremacy we should collab on a duet version maybe??

- zoe -

This is what we've been waiting for. The song adapts and survives through each generation. It's meant to be sung together, but I love that people are making it their own.

Fair play to all of you on the challenge. You're carrying the bog forward.

-- TradSessionKing -- Still singing, still in Galway --

I love that the song is alive in these new ways. TikTok challenges. Breath competitions. Who knew? But it makes sense. The Rattlin' Bog was always meant to be contagious. It finds its way in.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫
The hit counter number seems wrong[Close Thread]

BogLord, the hit counter on the home page is showing 4,397,221 hits. That seems... impossibly high? The site went dark for years. How is that even possible?

Is it broken? Or am I missing something?

-- RattlinFan99 -- "the bog down in the valley-o" --

It's correct.

HELLO I FOUND THIS SITE ON TIKTOK[Close Thread]

ok so i was doom scrolling on tiktok at like midnight and someone posted this VIDEO of people singing the MOST insane folk song and i got so obsessed i looked it up and found THIS WEBSITE and i cannot believe this is REAL??? there is a full website dedicated to the rattlin bog??? with like LYRICS and FORUM POSTS FROM 2003??? this is the most unhinged and beautiful thing i have ever discovered

is anyone here?? do people actually use this??? im so confused but im also like totally here for it now

- zoe -

Welcome, Zoe! This is the best post I've seen in twenty-three years. The fact that the Rattlin' Bog is still spreading, that it found its way to TikTok, that it brought you here... this is exactly what the song is about. It's unstoppable. It carries itself forward.

You're in good company. Stick around. Ask us anything.

And yes, people use this. I promise.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~
Is anyone still here?? (Dec 2025)[Close Thread]

Hello? Is anyone still out there?

I've been maintaining this site for over twenty years now and honestly I didn't think anyone was visiting anymore. The hit counter has been broken for ages (or so I thought). But then today I noticed some activity on the server logs and... I couldn't believe it.

Is this place still alive? Or am I just talking to myself?

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

BOGLORD???

I've been lurking for YEARS. Never thought to post again. But seeing your name just now... lad, I never left. I check in every few months. The site's been a touchstone for me. Thought I was the only one.

Still doing the sessions in Galway. You'd be amazed how many people still know this song.

-- TradSessionKing -- Still in Galway, still on Wednesdays --

BogLord. I never stopped coming back. Every year on the day this site launched. Just to read the old threads and remember when we were all so full of hope about the bog.

It's us. We're still here.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫ Lá Fhéile Pádraig sona duit ♫
SOMEONE POSTED A VIDEO ONLINE!!!!! (link inside)[Close Thread]

LADS. LADS. LADS.

I am shaking as I type this. Someone has uploaded a BRILLIANT recording of The Rattlin' Bog to a website called YouTube. I had never heard of it before today but apparently you can watch videos on the internet now??? For FREE???

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QO8bWGNPyo

I have watched it fourteen times already today. I am not exaggerating. The ENERGY. The HARMONIES. The way the whole room joins in. I have genuinely shed tears. This is everything I have wanted for this site.

I've added it to the home page as well. This is the biggest update since the site launched.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

OH MY GOD. BogLord. I just watched this and I am BEAMING. the way they speed up!! the way everyone knows the words!! this is exactly what it's like at sessions and I've never been able to show people who haven't been to one what it's like and NOW I CAN. I'm sending this to everyone I know.

also "YouTube"?? what a name. do you think it'll catch on?

*~*~* Aoife *~*~* ♫ music is the voice of the soul ♫ *~*~*

This is class. Fair play to whoever uploaded it. I tried to download it so I can watch it offline but my computer keeps freezing. Probably need more RAM. Does anyone know if you can save YouTube videos?

The performance is quality though. Real session energy. You can tell those are people who love the song.

-- TradSessionKing -- Galway sessions every Wednesday --

the future is NOW. video of the rattlin bog on the internet. what a time to be alive. i showed my da and he said "that's grand" which from him is basically a standing ovation

thanks BogLord for finding this. this site really is the best thing on the internet

-- RattlinFan99 -- "the bog down in the valley-o" --
☘ Happy St Patrick's Day 2003!! ☘[Close Thread]

Happy St Patrick's Day to all the fellow Rattlin' Bog fans out there!! ☘☘☘

I hope everyone sings the bog at least three times today. It's what St Patrick would have wanted.

Lá Fhéile Pádraig sona daoibh go léir!!

♫ ShannonMelody ♫ "Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla cliste" ♫

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I taught my whole school this song and now everyone hates me lol[Close Thread]

ok so basically I taught the rattlin bog to my class during music hour right? and the teacher was like "oh what a lovely folk song" and let us sing it. and then at lunch EVERYONE was singing it. and then by the end of the day the ENTIRE SCHOOL was singing it and the principal came on the intercom to ask people to please stop singing about the bog

my mam got a phone call home. i regret nothing

*~*~* Aoife *~*~* ♫ music is the voice of the soul ♫ *~*~*

Aoife you are a HERO. This is exactly what the song is for. It's unstoppable. Once it gets going it spreads like wildfire. Your principal never stood a chance.

I once started singing it on a bus from Limerick to Dublin and by Portlaoise the whole bus was singing along. The driver joined in. True story.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

This song is a memetic virus and I mean that as a compliment. Once you hear it you WILL sing it within 24 hours. That's just science.

-- TradSessionKing -- Galway sessions every Wednesday --

Aoife please tell me you taught them all the verses in the right order. I will not have children learning the feather before the bird. There is a SEQUENCE and it matters.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫ "Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla cliste" ♫
Which verse is your favourite??[Close Thread]

Right lads, settling this once and for all. Which verse is the best verse?

For me it's the flea on the feather. By that point everyone's singing at about 200mph and the whole room is falling apart. The flea is the CLIMAX of the song. The pinnacle. The summit.

Fight me.

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

Nah the bird on the egg is the turning point. Before that you're just building up, it's all trees and branches. But the BIRD. That's when it starts getting interesting. That's when you think "right this is going somewhere mad."

-- TradSessionKing -- Galway sessions every Wednesday --

the egg in the nest!!! idk why but there's something so satisfying about "a rare egg, a rattlin egg" like. an egg!!! in a nest!!! on a twig!!! on a branch!!! it's just so GOOD

also the way everyone speeds up at that point is hilarious

*~*~* Aoife *~*~* ♫ music is the voice of the soul ♫ *~*~*

I know this is controversial but I actually love the first verse best. "Now in this bog there was a tree, a rare tree, a rattlin' tree." Just the simplicity of it. A bog. A tree. That's it. Everything else grows from there. It's like... the whole song is contained in that first verse if you think about it. The bog holds everything.

♫ ShannonMelody ♫ "Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla cliste" ♫

late to this but: the HAIR on the FLEA. if your version goes that far. it's pure chaos. nobody can keep up. everyone's just shouting. it's the best moment in music.

-- RattlinFan99 -- "the bog down in the valley-o" --
Does anyone know the FULL lyrics?? I always forget the order[Close Thread]

ok i can never remember whether the nest comes before or after the twig. and is it a branch or a bough?? and does anyone do the one with the hair on the flea?? every time i sing this at a session someone tells me i have the order wrong and i want to get it RIGHT once and for all

-- RattlinFan99 -- "the bog down in the valley-o" --

RattlinFan99 you have come to the right place!! I've put the COMPLETE lyrics on the Lyrics page of this very site. Fully written out, every verse, every cumulative repetition. No abbreviations. I spent an embarrassing amount of time getting this right.

The order (in the version I learned): tree, limb, branch, twig, nest, egg, bird, feather, flea, hair. Some people do "branch" instead of "limb" and skip straight to "twig" but I think the limb/branch distinction is important. And yes, some versions go further than the flea but the hair is a good stopping point.

Also: it's a folk song. There IS no single "correct" version. But mine is correct. ☘

~~ BogLord2002 ~~ Webmaster of The Rattlin' Bog Fan Shrine ~~ Est. 2002 ~~

BogLord you're a legend. printing these out and laminating them. next session i will NOT be corrected. i'll have PROOF.

-- RattlinFan99 -- "the bog down in the valley-o" --

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